1860 United States Federal Census

JKOCH3 · Pioneer

TOTTEN

Karen Morlan · Veteran Member

Hello, I have some information that may be helpful to you. If you would like to email me we can share. It's too large to post here. Thanks Karen

krmorlan@earthlink.net

ALD · Senior Member

During a quick spell at the Fulton Co Courthouse, I caught this info in a book I was in..........might not be anyhting on yr line but perhaps it is. I was going to a funeral with abit of spare time and had a mental list..........very short..lol

Thrasher, Almira wid. of Charles Thrasher

B. 9/9/1866 Fulton Co d. 12/21/1945 Isabel Twp. Buried Laurel Hill Havana

FA- John Totten Ky MA-Barbara Baughman Ohio

ALD · Senior Member

http://www.illinoisancestors.org/fulton/Cemeteries/cemeteries_alpha.html

I just came across this and noticed a Totten Cem. Have you discovered this already?

JKOCH3 · Pioneer

Thank You! Yes, I had found this site right after posting my inquiry. I appreciate all the help!

Joyce

JKOCH3 · Pioneer

Thank You! I appreciate all the help! I am related to this one also and had this information. Thanks again!

Joyce

Ruth Culton Taylor · Veteran Member

I looked your John and Malinda up in the Fulton County books I have. Briefly this is what I found.

1850 Fulton County Illinois Census:

John (27 yr, a physician) wife Malinda and 4 childern are living in Putman Township.

John (30yr., a farmer) wife Barbara and 1 child living in Cass Township next to William Totten (70) and family (probably his father.

In "A History of Fulton County Illinois in Spoon River Country 1818-1968" p. 109 It says that "In 1823 William Totten, his Brother John and Roswell Tyrell settled in the southwest quarter of Section27."

Could your, John the physician, be a son of William's brother John?

Also there is a Noah Totten who got a land patent in Farmington Twp 1818. Another possibility.

There are 3 Fulton County History book and all 3 have a little information on Tottens and O'Bryants. If you haven't looked at them it is worth while. I f nothing mar than getting a feel for the area.

Hope this helps,

Ruth

-- Edited by Ruth Culton Taylor at 08:24, 2008-09-01

Occupy · Pioneer

Could you please tell me where the three books are located containing information about the Totten and O'Bryant (O'Briant and other variations)? I'm related to the O'Bryants in Fulton County and am looking for more facts.

Thanks,
Connie

Ruth Culton Taylor · Veteran Member

Good Morning,

If my scanner worked I could scan and send pages, but unfortunately it does not.

Most large Genealogical Libraries have them. Also if you have access to Heritage Quest, they may have them. Also Most libraries have access to Worldcat (World Cataloge). Enter the title and or discription and that shoud tell you where to find them.

Ruth

Occupy · Pioneer

Thanks for the information, Ruth. I really appreciate that. I'll be in the area for the Spoon River festival and will look into cemeteries, etc.

On a side note, I found my ggg grandmother and ggg grandfather in the 1860 Buckheart Tsp, Fulton Co census, but the last name has been transcribed as something like Stoutas instead of Stutes. They are dwelling #738, family #717. Is there any way to have a correction made?

Thanks,
Connie

-- Edited by Occupy at 15:16, 2008-08-31

Ruth Culton Taylor · Veteran Member

Connie,

I am not sure if Heritage Quest has anway to make corection regarding transcription errs but Ancestory does. I spend a lot of time making corrections.
When you find your person(s) and get the "XXXX United States Federal Census about xxx xxxx" look in the box to left labeled Page Tools. Click 'Comments and Corrections" Be prepare to explain how you know it is possibly the wrong information. I usually say something like this is may great grandfather who was born xxx (full date is possible) in such and such. Plus any additional information you care to share. Submit and waite. Eventually you will get an email thanking you for your correction.

Now it will still be listed the way they originally spelled it but your change will be noted and it will pop up in the Search. Unfortunately, you must do this for each of the family member listed on the census. cry

Good Luck,
Ruth

Occupy · Pioneer

Hi Ruth,

Thanks for the information. However, the name is altered enough that it won't come up on the on line census to be able to change it. I found the handwritten record for them by searching for the Obriant family. They are living next door to the Stutes. I've tried every spelling (27 to date) that it could possibly look like to bring up a historical record. For example: It looks like the enumerator wrote "Slonlas" because the "t's" weren't crossed correctly. I've tried it with "l's" and "t's". I've tried using a "u" in place of the "n" because it almost looks like they wrote an N instead of a U. On and on. I even used the wildcard features. It's frustrating not to be able to pull up the historical information when I can see them plain as day next to my Obriant's. None of the other researchers have 1860 information on them for this reason as well. I'll just keep plugging in different letters to see if something else works.

If you think of anything else, please let me know. If you have access to the handwritten copy, please tell me what you think the spelling is.

Thanks again,
Connie

Ruth Culton Taylor · Veteran Member

Good Morning Connie,

This it?? smile

1860 United States Federal Census
about James Santas

Name:	James Santas
Age in 1860:	37
Birth Year:	abt 1823
Birthplace:	Ohio
Home in 1860:	Buckheart, Fulton, Illinois

In the 1860 Federal census for Fulton County, Buckhears township. I put is his first name only Plus his place of birth.

I often do this in Heritage Quest especially if I can narrow the area of possible location.

I genealogy was easy, what would we do for frustration? biggrin

Good Luck

Occupy · Pioneer

Hi Ruth,

You are a genious, a sweetheart and my hero, (or heroine)!!! Bingo. I edited James' name from Stutes to Santas and up popped the entire family. It is a pain to add alternate names, but so worth the effort.

I can't thank you enough for your assistance. Never in a hundred years would I have thought to use "Santas". The handwritten record looks nothing like it. I am impressed with your knowledge and expertise.

I did try to access Heritage, but you need to have a sponsor. What's that all about?

Would you like to try your knowledge and expertise on finding out why so many people list Mary Ann Henley as the wife of James P. Stutes instead of Mary Ann Obriant? On their marriage certificate is says Mary Ann O'Briant and her brother, Pleasant O'Briant, issued the warrant on the affidavit. One family member says that her name was Mary Ann Henley Obriant. Her daughter, my gg Grandmother Nancy listed Mary Ann's maiden name as "Henley" on her marriage certificate to my gg Grandfather, William Washburn.

The 1880 census shows James as a widower having returned from Kansas back to Fulton County IL. I don't know if Mary Ann died in Kansas or Illinois. Others have listed her as Mary Ann Henley d. 1880 in Utica, LaSalle. However, wouldn't her name be "Stutes" on the death record? I looked up Mary Ann Henley d.1880 and it actually says Mary Ann Henley died in 1870, so I do not think this is her.

Sorry to blather on about this.

You are so right about the frustration of it all, but there's nothing else I'd rather be frustrated about or addicted to.

Thanks again for all your time and efforts.

Connie

Ruth Culton Taylor · Veteran Member

Hi Connie,

To the best of my knowledge (which is limited) Heritage Quest is available through libraries. I can access it using my library card on the local library web site. I know of no other way. It has more things that censuses. I have only explored some.

Regarding your Mary Ann Henley OBriant: Guessing the mariage occured in the early 1800s. I suspect that Henley may well have been her maiden name and her first husband Obriant may have died young may be on the trail west with his brother Pleasant. Remember that women in those days had no rights. She had to have a MAN take care of everything, therefore Pleasant had to vouch it was okay for her to marry. It is only a thought.

If you want to contact me privately you are welcome to email me at ruthcultontaylor_at_hotmail.com. Replace _at_ with @. (Trying to avoid spammers)

Remember: Genealogy is haystack full of needles. It's the threads you need. idea

Happy hunting,
Ruth

ps feel free to contact me anytime I lke helping to find thread.

1860 United States Federal Census about James Santas

1860 United States Federal Census
about James Santas